Nancy Ellen AbramsIn this week’s episode Nancy Ellen Abrams speaks  with Joanna about the quest for a spirituality consistent with science; we are meaning-seeking beings; God as our collective emergent identity; the cosmic dance of dark energy and dark matter; a new origin story for a new cosmology; novelty and emergence; the need for a coherent, unifying vision; becoming good ancestors for our descendants.


Nancy Ellen Abrams is a philosopher of science, lawyer, and author. She and her husband, world-renowned cosmologist Joel R. Primack, developed a new visual language to express the big ideas underlying the new universe picture, which Primack helped create. Early in her career Abrams worked in the US Congress”s Office of Technology Assessment, where she invented Scientific Mediation, a method that helps government agencies make the wisest policy decision possible in the face of scientific uncertainty. She is the co-author with her husband of “The View from the Center of the Universe: Discovering Our Extraordinary Place in the Cosmos” and “The New Universe and the Human Future: How a Shared Cosmology Could Transform the World”, winner of the 2012 Nautilus Gold award for best science book of 2011. Abrams’ new book “A God That Could Be Real: Spirituality, Science, and the Future of Our Planet”, pulls together science and spirituality into a radically new Big Picture for our time, with forewords by Archbishop Desmond Tutu and cosmologist Paul Davies.


“I Can’t Sit Still”, original music by Evarusnik