In this week’s episode George Greer speaks with Joanna about: teaching how to do MDMA-assisted therapy; the unique characteristics of MDMA; the openness of love is always present, fear is a distraction from it; the healing effect of psilocybin in high doses in a careful set and setting; two stories of healing, existential transformation with psilocybin mushrooms; the life-changing summer of 1968; the helpful complementarity of meditation and psychedelic work; MAPS, Heffter Research Institute and the spirit of Esalen; passing on the lineage of Stan Grof and Leo Zeff to the next generation; generosity as the core value of Burning Man; the process of training psychedelic therapists; safety first.

George R. Greer, MD, is a psychiatrist who conducted over 100 therapeutic sessions with MDMA for 80 individuals from 1980 to 1985 with his wife, psychiatric nurse Requa Tolbert Greer. He is a Distinguished Life Fellow of the American Psychiatric Association and Past President of the Psychiatric Medical Association of New Mexico. He was also the Clinical Director of Mental Health Services for the New Mexico Corrections Department during the 1990s. He was the Medical Director of the Heffter Research Institute from 1998 to 2017, when he became President.

“I Can’t Sit Still”, original music by Evarusnik

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